今天小弟試著自己備份919的晶片鑰匙,因為晶片鑰匙又弄丟一把嚕
但先說再前這是記錄不是教學『沒把握千萬別照著做 』
之前曾請店家備份過一次,找了好幾家才找到有這個服務的
只是開口就是NTD:1800,成本一把不到500元內
(這是指車行拿鑰匙的成本)
現在又再弄丟一把,這次小弟不想去被"摃潘R",所以計畫自己做
我去國外論壇查到備份步驟,大概研究了一下也跟手冊比對過
腦袋裡大概知道是如何作業,步驟如下(想知道那些英文還有說什麼,自己翻吧)
1. Obtain a new transponder key.
2. Grind the key in accordance with the shape of the original key.
3. Apply 12V battery voltage to the ignition pulse generator lines of the engine control module (ECM) using the special tool (page 20-5).
4. Turn the ignition switch ON with the original key. The immobiliser indicator comes on and it remains on.
*The code of the original key is recognised by the ECM.
*If there is any problem in the immobiliser system, the system will enter the diagnostic mode and the indicator will remain on for approx. ten seconds, then it will indicate the diagnostic code (page 20-5).
5. Disconnect the red clip of the inspection adaptor from the battery positive (+) terminal for two seconds or more, then connect it again. The indicator remains on for approx. two seconds, then it blinks four times repeatedly.
*The immobiliser system (HISS) enters the registration mode. Registrations of all key except the original key inserted in the ignition switch are cancelled. (Registration of the lost key or spare key is cancelled.)
NOTE:
The spare key must be registered again.
6. Turn the ignition switch OFF and remove the key.
7. Turn the ignition switch ON with a new key or the spare key. (Never use the key registered in previous step.) The indicator comes on for two seconds, then it blinks four times repeatedly.
*The new key or spare key is registered in the ECM.
*If there is any problem in the registration, the system will enter the diagnostic mode and the indicator will remain on for approx. ten seconds, then it will indicate the diagnostic code (page 20-6).
CAUTION:
Keep the other transponder key away from the immobiliser receiver more than 50mm (2.0 in).
8. Repeat the steps 6 and 7 when you continuously register the other new key.
NOTE:
The ECM can store up to four key codes. (The four keys can be registered.)
9. Turn the ignition switch OFF, remove the inspection adaptor and connect the ignition pulse generator connector.
10. Turn the ignition ON with the registered key.
*The immobiliser system (HISS) returns to the normal mode.
11. Check that the engine can be started using all registered key.
作業準備
1.弄幾把空白鑰匙先
2.打齒
3.自己做一條備份線組,料錢約85元
4.完成圖(有點醜,配線方法樓下有說明請參照一下
開始作業
1.先參考手冊把一條叫ignition pulse generator lines的線找出來
手冊上說在電瓶旁,是一條黃/白線2P紅色接頭,應該是照片這條吧
2.然後將線組接上這個接頭後,再接上12V的電源,沒有額外準備只好車上的電瓶
3.將僅存的晶片鑰匙插上去轉到ON,此步驟無任何燈號變化(有變化應該是有異常)
4.將線組的正極移開2~5秒後再重新接上,HISS燈會開始閃爍
關於步驟4.的注意事項 krishuang大有在樓下做詳細說明,請參照之
5.將鑰匙移除,再將空白鑰匙插入切至ON,HISS會開始閃爍(直到鑰匙取出前)
若想要再備份其他鑰匙,只要再插到鑰匙轉ON約2~5秒即可,最多可記錄4支(其實要看車種啦)
6.備份作業完成,將車子電瓶及線路復歸
7.緊張時刻來臨了,備份好的鑰匙拿來試啟動
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我差一點要哭出來了,不是車子爆炸了,是它發動了
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---------Updated 100/07/15------------------------.
以上操作小弟實際做過兩次都成功
車上的操作本身很簡單,成敗是那條線的製做(接錯正負極)
其實接錯正負極別啟動引擎就好(過程反正也沒啟動的步驟啦)
目前雖有車友也成功備份,但小弟寫的步驟有很多無附照片
或表達上不好理解,可能造成有車友看不懂
就請各位車友若有發現更多細節或本身備份心得,請也分享給大家參考看看
---------Updated 101/05/07------------------------.
有車友私訊,詢問為何他們依上述步驟能無法備份HISS鑰匙
是否是ECM註冊的鑰匙數量已滿,需不需清除ECM的記憶
經外國論壇的熱心車友指點,他們的回答是:
每次HISS鑰匙註冊程序時,都會將原先所註冊的記憶清除
所以不所謂的清除記憶的程序
也就是當進行註冊程序時,現有的鑰匙除了插上去的那支母鑰匙,其餘的皆會被除名,這跟krishuang大所說的一樣
至於部份車友,無法進行程序的主要原因,小弟也難回答
畢竟非HORNET車系,小弟實在不熟
可能要請車友花錢去車行消災了
外國論壇網址如下,英文好的車友可以去逛逛,主要是在討論CBR車系
但其他車系也有不少討論
(會發現阿都R也是有嘴砲的,只是沒咱們那麼多而己)
http://www.fireblades.org/forums/honda-motorcycle-models/
-------------Updated by 20120117----------------
有找到一段VFR800備份鑰匙的影片(小弟不會崁入youtube影片)
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ddb0ee6u7CjQ&v=db0ee6u7CjQ&gl=TW
有興趣的車友可以看看(他講什麼不重要),做法是一樣
但先說再前這是記錄不是教學『沒把握千萬別照著做 』
之前曾請店家備份過一次,找了好幾家才找到有這個服務的
只是開口就是NTD:1800,成本一把不到500元內
(這是指車行拿鑰匙的成本)
現在又再弄丟一把,這次小弟不想去被"摃潘R",所以計畫自己做
我去國外論壇查到備份步驟,大概研究了一下也跟手冊比對過
腦袋裡大概知道是如何作業,步驟如下(想知道那些英文還有說什麼,自己翻吧)
1. Obtain a new transponder key.
2. Grind the key in accordance with the shape of the original key.
3. Apply 12V battery voltage to the ignition pulse generator lines of the engine control module (ECM) using the special tool (page 20-5).
4. Turn the ignition switch ON with the original key. The immobiliser indicator comes on and it remains on.
*The code of the original key is recognised by the ECM.
*If there is any problem in the immobiliser system, the system will enter the diagnostic mode and the indicator will remain on for approx. ten seconds, then it will indicate the diagnostic code (page 20-5).
5. Disconnect the red clip of the inspection adaptor from the battery positive (+) terminal for two seconds or more, then connect it again. The indicator remains on for approx. two seconds, then it blinks four times repeatedly.
*The immobiliser system (HISS) enters the registration mode. Registrations of all key except the original key inserted in the ignition switch are cancelled. (Registration of the lost key or spare key is cancelled.)
NOTE:
The spare key must be registered again.
6. Turn the ignition switch OFF and remove the key.
7. Turn the ignition switch ON with a new key or the spare key. (Never use the key registered in previous step.) The indicator comes on for two seconds, then it blinks four times repeatedly.
*The new key or spare key is registered in the ECM.
*If there is any problem in the registration, the system will enter the diagnostic mode and the indicator will remain on for approx. ten seconds, then it will indicate the diagnostic code (page 20-6).
CAUTION:
Keep the other transponder key away from the immobiliser receiver more than 50mm (2.0 in).
8. Repeat the steps 6 and 7 when you continuously register the other new key.
NOTE:
The ECM can store up to four key codes. (The four keys can be registered.)
9. Turn the ignition switch OFF, remove the inspection adaptor and connect the ignition pulse generator connector.
10. Turn the ignition ON with the registered key.
*The immobiliser system (HISS) returns to the normal mode.
11. Check that the engine can be started using all registered key.
作業準備
1.弄幾把空白鑰匙先
2.打齒
3.自己做一條備份線組,料錢約85元
4.完成圖(有點醜,配線方法樓下有說明請參照一下
開始作業
1.先參考手冊把一條叫ignition pulse generator lines的線找出來
手冊上說在電瓶旁,是一條黃/白線2P紅色接頭,應該是照片這條吧
2.然後將線組接上這個接頭後,再接上12V的電源,沒有額外準備只好車上的電瓶
3.將僅存的晶片鑰匙插上去轉到ON,此步驟無任何燈號變化(有變化應該是有異常)
4.將線組的正極移開2~5秒後再重新接上,HISS燈會開始閃爍
關於步驟4.的注意事項 krishuang大有在樓下做詳細說明,請參照之
5.將鑰匙移除,再將空白鑰匙插入切至ON,HISS會開始閃爍(直到鑰匙取出前)
若想要再備份其他鑰匙,只要再插到鑰匙轉ON約2~5秒即可,最多可記錄4支(其實要看車種啦)
6.備份作業完成,將車子電瓶及線路復歸
7.緊張時刻來臨了,備份好的鑰匙拿來試啟動
.
.
.
.
.
.
我差一點要哭出來了,不是車子爆炸了,是它發動了
.
.
.
.
.
---------Updated 100/07/15------------------------.
以上操作小弟實際做過兩次都成功
車上的操作本身很簡單,成敗是那條線的製做(接錯正負極)
其實接錯正負極別啟動引擎就好(過程反正也沒啟動的步驟啦)
目前雖有車友也成功備份,但小弟寫的步驟有很多無附照片
或表達上不好理解,可能造成有車友看不懂
就請各位車友若有發現更多細節或本身備份心得,請也分享給大家參考看看
---------Updated 101/05/07------------------------.
有車友私訊,詢問為何他們依上述步驟能無法備份HISS鑰匙
是否是ECM註冊的鑰匙數量已滿,需不需清除ECM的記憶
經外國論壇的熱心車友指點,他們的回答是:
每次HISS鑰匙註冊程序時,都會將原先所註冊的記憶清除
所以不所謂的清除記憶的程序
也就是當進行註冊程序時,現有的鑰匙除了插上去的那支母鑰匙,其餘的皆會被除名,這跟krishuang大所說的一樣
至於部份車友,無法進行程序的主要原因,小弟也難回答
畢竟非HORNET車系,小弟實在不熟
可能要請車友花錢去車行消災了
外國論壇網址如下,英文好的車友可以去逛逛,主要是在討論CBR車系
但其他車系也有不少討論
(會發現阿都R也是有嘴砲的,只是沒咱們那麼多而己)
http://www.fireblades.org/forums/honda-motorcycle-models/
-------------Updated by 20120117----------------
有找到一段VFR800備份鑰匙的影片(小弟不會崁入youtube影片)
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ddb0ee6u7CjQ&v=db0ee6u7CjQ&gl=TW
有興趣的車友可以看看(他講什麼不重要),做法是一樣
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